Interview with a Male Nurse

By David Michael Newstead.

Nursing has been frequently mentioned as a career alternative for men as blue-collar industries like manufacturing and coal mining disappear across the United States. However, gender differences between these jobs and our views about them complicate the need for a steady paycheck. This was recently articulated in a not-so-subtle New York Times piece entitled Men Don’t Want to be Nurses. Their Wives Agree. To get more perspective on this, I decided to reach out to a male nurse I know to discuss the apparently contentious issue of men in nursing.

David Newstead: So, what’s it like being a male nurse?

Male Nurse: I don’t mind, though occasionally you’ll find a passage in a textbook about the role of nurses and it’s clearly written toward a female audience.

David Newstead: How do female nurses react to you?

Male Nurse: They’re happy about it. The whole gender issue has never come up. Pretty much every nurse you talk to will say they need more male nurses.

David Newstead: Why’s that?

Male Nurse: Combative patients and heavy patients are probably the two biggest reasons why male nurses are valued. Otherwise, it just comes down to some people feel more comfortable if the nurse performing a particular procedure is a particular gender.

David Newstead: What are some of the negative impressions you’ve encountered?

Male Nurse: Well, it’s definitely been seen as beneath men who are supposed to be the doctors and decision-makers, but it’s also because the profession of nursing perpetuates that their value is in being caring individuals rather than highly skilled and knowledgeable healthcare personnel. Nurses over-humanize themselves because for reasons unknown to me they don’t want to be seen as technicians. No matter how skilled.

David Newstead: Do you think people would react differently if male nurses had a different job title? Like maybe that would fix everything.

Male Nurse: My wife says yes. Nurse has an inherently female connotation. I’m not so sure myself. I think having a different job title for male nurses would be more of a hassle than just having folks deal with the fact that some nurses are men.

David Newstead: I guess you’re right. I can’t think of any good replacement titles. Orderly? Health Technician? I don’t know…

David Newstead: In your view, is nursing a good replacement for blue-collar manufacturing jobs? This gets talked about a lot.

Male Nurse: Not really. For one, we need manufacturing jobs. America shouldn’t stop making stuff. For another, nursing requires minimum two years of college education, which many guys who can make a good wage manufacturing out of high school wouldn’t be able to hack or even care about like high level anatomy and physiology courses.

David Newstead: Are they going to have many other choices as technology continues to impact the job market?

Male Nurse: Probably not, but that’s why we need to fight automation and artificial intelligence in such jobs.

The Future of Men: Extras

The Future of Men: Pure Speculation

By David Michael Newstead. 

What is the future of men? Lately, I’ve been trying to answer that question and here’s some speculation. As traditional standards of masculinity increasingly confront the realities of the modern world, they will seem more and more out-of-date in our culture, in economics, and in our politics. And while some people might want to return to the mythical golden age of 1950s America, that vision will be unacceptable to many others and impossible in a practical sense even if it were appealing to everyone. Instead, on-going social change will lead to numerous opportunities to question and redefine gender norms for the better, but will people actually do that? In part, that depends on our willingness to change and the difference of opinion between one generation and another. But there are other factors at play as well. Ultimately, gender inequalities are inseparable from economic and racial forms of inequality. And if those increase, then so will gender inequalities in various forms. For instance, the decline of male-dominated professions and industries might at first appear to be an opportunity for female advancement. However, these developments are likely just harbingers of things to come in the economy in general as automation and other technologies separate profitability from human labor, which has far reaching implications. But even if that does not take place, the decline of men is rarely a progressive step forward. In countries where large numbers of men have declined socially and economically, it’s given rise to a kind of hyper-masculine reactionary political climate instead of some gender equitable utopia. Examples of this include Russia, the Philippines, and the United States. Whether this represents the last gasp of traditional gender norms or actually foreshadows our future remains to be seen. It’s possible then that the future of men can be a very good thing, but not without a lot of work and, above all, the willingness to change.

8 Women Discuss Toxic Masculinity

By David Michael Newstead.

Recently, I’ve been reaching out to different women and talking to them about their experiences with toxic masculinity. This led to a range of interesting responses and below are some of the highlights.

Woman #1: The first woman I asked responded just by sending me a Medium article entitled Why Does Dating Men Make Me Feel Like Shit?

Woman #2: So so so many manifestations of toxic masculinity in America: Donald Trump, rape, domestic violence being mostly perpetrated by men, most crime being perpetrated by men, patriarchy…

Woman #3: Most things in the U.S. today are toxic. And normally I would say things would get better when the old school fogeys died.

Woman #4: I think I discussed the idea a bit back in my college days, especially the phrase “man up” which I hadn’t really heard before college. The first definition on that website, that patriarchy is harmful to men, feels intrinsically true. Any stereotype or expectation that fits half the population into a box is necessarily harmful. Needless to say it’s harmful to trans-men, but it also places undue pressure on cis-men. Social constructs might favor men, but that doesn’t mean all men are helped by them. If you are emotional or sensitive, the construct might harm you. Now I feel like the word has more meaning or more baggage. I skimmed a couple articles and they seem to imply feminists are using the term to say all men are violent and women are victims. If that’s what it means, then I disagree. Maybe if the term is used to blame or justify a man’s actions, then it is used incorrectly. I don’t feel that “masculinity” is toxic, I feel that patriarchy is toxic – to all of us. (of course then I have to define each, but I’ll leave that for another day) Anyway, my thoughts as of now.

Woman #5: I have dealt with it with men I have dated as well as in the workplace. Unfortunately, it seems to be rewarded in the workplace or tolerated. I have a male coworker who treats men and women differently. The way he speaks to women is horrible, but he is hardly reprimanded. He is a manager. My fellow coworker had a similar experience at another job. I experience it daily, but I choose not to engage in it if I can help it. I experience it in the workplace, not in my personal relationship.

Woman #6: I am no expert on it, but I look back at past relationships and I think, “Oh that’s what that was…”

Woman #7: I mean, I experience it a lot in meetings. Sad thing is when it happens I just let it. For me, I always think of my nephews. My family is hard on them and refuses to let them cry. I am disliked in my family, because I tell them to cry and have emotions. But I was also raised by a family of bullies. So there is that.

Woman #8: I’d like to punch [toxic masculinity] in the throat and the dick.

Extras: The Future of Men

The Future of Men: Author Interview

By David Michael Newstead.

Jack Myers is a businessman, a public speaker, and the author of The Future of Men: Masculinity in the Twenty-First Century. Recently, I had the chance to talk with Jack about his book and about important gender issues in the United States. Our conversation is below.

David Newstead: What kind of response has the book gotten so far?

Jack Myers: Those who read it have been extremely supportive and positive. I generated a number of speaking engagements primarily to women’s groups: the 3 Percent Conference, S.H.E. Summit, and other women’s organizations. Some educational organizations and some human resources and talent groups have been very responsive. Mostly mothers who have read it have been very affected, particularly mothers of boys who are concerned about their sons.

David Newstead: Your book was published early last year prior to the election. Since the election, is there anything new that you would add to it? Or has your thinking about any of these issues changed given the misogynistic tone of the campaign?

Jack Myers: That’s an understatement. I did write in the book that the anti-women’s rights movement represents a backlash against the growing empowerment of women. I think we’re seeing things like The Handmaid’s Tale and other stories that kind of personifies the threat in some ways of a Trump-like future. My opinions have been reinforced by the election. I have written a number of pieces during the election. And one was a letter to Hillary Clinton and it said if you fail to recognize the issues confronting young men and address them you’ll lose the election. And I think that message has been obviously reinforced, unfortunately. But I also think that there’s so much attention being paid to Trump and things he’s doing that it almost serving as a buffer-zone to allow a lot of local governments to double down on their anti-women’s right initiatives and anti-abortions initiatives. And I really fear for the Supreme Court with Roe v. Wade. I think we’re in a continuing acceleration of the backlash rather than the election causing a response to reject that virus and that cancer that’s growing.

David Newstead: You mention in the book how a lot of people are stuck in the past when it comes to gender norms. To your point, is what we’re seeing now the last gasp of the old way or is it a resurgence of those sexist attitudes?

Jack Myers: That’s a great question. My sense right now is that we’re seeing the empowerment of that negative patriarchy and machismo and sexist and misogynistic attitudes. We should be seeing a last gasp. And ultimately, I believe that history will prove those who are pursuing those policies to be wrong and to be not only misguided, but to have been a dangerous voice in politics and culture. But in the meantime, you know until we see some election results it seems to me that we have more enablement and empowerment of outdated attitudes. What do you think?

David Newstead: You know, I think it’s nice to believe that when a less enlightened generation dies of old age some social problems will magically go away as well. You know like once all the old racists die off, then there won’t be anymore racism, right? That kind of thing. Except, unless we purposefully seek to address some issues they don’t ever really go away. They just take on new forms. For instance, a lot of women I’ve talked to get inundated with online hatred or harassment of different kinds: whether it’s on dating apps or something else. But you know, it’s just a different avenue for misogyny that didn’t exist 20 or 30 years ago.

Jack Myers: There’s a whole chapter in the book about online dating and the interesting dynamics of it: where women get 50 emails to everyone that a man gets. Many of them being inappropriate, reflecting all the negative issues we’ve been discussing. At the same time, a lot of people are still meeting on online dating sites. Those are just the realities of progress. My concern is that with online is I keep coming back to younger generations. Tonight, I’m speaking to the parents of fourth and fifth graders at a local elementary school here in New York. I’m trying to really figure out, what is the message that I want to share with them about what their kids are being exposed to through technology and what messages they’re learning about gender relationships and gender norms. The vast majority of their teachers are female. You know, 50 percent of young people are growing up in home that are either fatherless or where the mother is the primary or equal wage-earner. So, you have this very female-centric environment. But yet at the same time, they’re seeing Donald Trump. And you know even at 7 and 8 years old, they’re very aware of the message that he’s been communicating. So, I’m concerned about the confusion that they grow up with and how that manifests itself.

David Newstead: Out of curiosity, how did you first become interested in this topic of masculinity?

Jack Myers: I came to the topic of masculinity in more of a circular fashion. It started out more of a business interest on the impact on the internet on generational shifts. I wrote a book a few years ago called Hooked Up that really focused in on the first generation to be growing up with the internet. And it recognized how female-centric and female dominant that this generation is. Then, I started questioning what’s happening to men. And that led me down a path of realizing that it was a topic that’s not really being focused on. And that led to the book and a degree of activism. I continue however to have a pretty sizeable B2B business focused on the media industry called MediaVillage. And that takes up the vast majority of my time. So, the issues around the future of men are more purpose driven and passion based than they are revenue generated or professional.

David Newstead: I sympathize. And I’m sure you may have had a similar experience, but once you start looking at it you realize masculinity connects to a lot of different issues in our society. So, there are plenty of topics to discuss.

Jack Myers: Indeed, there are. So, I’ve really begun trying to build up a movement around some of the core issues mostly relating to media and the way men are portrayed by media, education, mentoring, business, and stay-at-home dads.

David Newstead: In the book, you describe a forward-looking vision of the future in terms of women’s empowerment and things like that. But in the short-term, how do you think we can get there?

Jack Myers: The book is positive, but I’ve been called all kinds of names by the angry men’s movement online in response to some of my blogs and commentary. I think in the short-term, we get there by really helping young men and men in general understand that it’s okay to be vulnerable. It’s okay to be emotional. When they are, rather than putting them down or make them feel uncomfortable to acknowledge them. To encourage young men who are in high school or even earlier to enter into careers that are normally reserved for women: health, education, administrative, library sciences.

I believe the most important things we can do is to start paying attention to the way men and boys are portrayed on television in commercials and sitcoms. Rather than portraying them as the Homer Simpson buffoons and the helpless dads or the sexists or misogynists in beer commercials, we can present positive messages of men and their sons just as we present positive portrayals of women. You know one thing I’ve noticed is the commercials that do have positive portrayals of dads invariably they’re with their daughters and not with their sons. And I find that really interesting.

David Newstead: I’ve noticed that on some Super Bowl commercials. To your point on career tracks, I was wondering if you could comment on gender-based occupational segregation?

Jack Myers: We’ve certainly have had that in almost every traditional category of business. If you go back – other than teaching and nursing and secretarial work, men have been dominant. Now, we’re seeing an increasingly diverse population of doctors, lawyers, and others. So, there’s a breakdown, but those breakdowns have happened primarily where the males have been dominant and they haven’t yet happened where females are dominant. And that’s where the opportunity is. Two-thirds of all the new jobs created in America are going to females, because the jobs require a college education and there are more female college graduates than male college graduates. The jobs where the opportunities are in the public service, in nursing, in teaching, and in those careers that have been traditionally designed for women. And I think we just have to find ways of creating a comfort level for young men and boys to want to be in those careers without demeaning them for it. In the same way, I think we have to change perceptions of stay-at-home dads from being out-of-work dads to being men who are doing the best for their family and their partners. It takes a long time to turn these perceptions around. It’s taken 30 years of encouragement from the women’s movement to begin to see more and more women in the STEM careers. It could be 20 or 30 years before we really begin to see a balancing in these other careers. But I don’t think it will. I don’t think it will take that long, because we have too many out-of-work men right now who are struggling to find a career path.

David Newstead: We’ve been talking about the future of men and women. But outside of those binary terms, what’s the future for people who don’t fit into these two boxes like the LGBTQ community?

Jack Myers: It’s a great question. It’s interesting. I have a chapter on Will & Grace, the TV show, and how influential it was in changing perceptions of gay people in America. And now Will & Grace is coming back with the original cast on NBC again. You know, there is an openness toward gay people has definitely shifted over several years and will continue to shift. This young generation that’s growing up now that’s in their late teens and early 20s, they don’t see gender differences for the most part. Obviously, it’s a generalization. They don’t experience them. They just don’t see gay, straight, male, female as a big issue. And then, they get out of college and come into the workforce and all of a sudden they begin to confront those issues as being primary in the culture and they don’t know quite how to respond. They start dealing with older people who have those biases and start being confronted with it. And instead of being comfortable with their own opinions and their own perceptions, they feel they have to adapt to the culture that exists instead of rejecting it. A challenge in society today, as I said before, is a lot of organizations are still holding on to these outdated perceptions.

David Newstead: One closing question. If you could give one piece of advice to young men, what would it be?

Jack Myers: Follow your own path. Don’t conform. Don’t feel you have to conform to society’s norms about masculinity. And be proud of who and what you are.